In this month’s episode of 13 Steps Below – a podcast created by the students at the University of the Underground – we hear about the students work in collaboration with the Dutch National Opera and Ballet and the University of Amsterdam, dramaturgy department. As a part of their project called “Repeat after me” the students present a podcast about Opera, collective trauma and reenactment. 
With behind the scenes access into the production of the Opera Clemenza di Tito directed by the renowned American theatre and opera director Peter Sellars, the students explore the question, “What can we learn from the method of reenactment, in a psychological sense, and how do we overcome a collective trauma as a society?”.
In Episode 5 we hear an interview from Sjaron Minailo, Opera Director and Tutor at the University of the Underground. All taking us on a explorative journey through the power of reenactment as an theatrical form of dealing with a collective Trauma. 
Listen to the fitfth bombastic episode and you will hear about the working methods of the students to produce an opera and hear their vocals and rhythms!
This podcast was made by the students of the MA Design of Experiences at the University of the Underground and the Sandberg Instituut: Malena Maria Arcucci, John Charles Bricker, Tom Burke, Alexander Cromer, Francisco Dorado, Ryan Eykholt, Heather Griffin, Juhee Hahm, Anna Maria Merkel, Joseph Pleass, Ada Reinthal, Luke George Hardy Rideout, Evita Eva-Maria Bianca Rigert, Jack Waghorn!
Massive thank you to the Dutch National Opera and Ballet, Peter Sellars, the University of Amsterdam, the tutors of the University of the Underground, the Dramaturgy Masterclass and to the De Marktkantine.
Producer: Evita Rigert, Tom Burke
Writer: Tom Burke
Hosts: Alexander Cromer, Heather Griffin
Featuring Guests: Sjaron Minailo
Work – Features: Malena Araccuci, Joseph Pleass
Work – Features: Tom Burke, Alexander Cromer
Work – Features: Evita Rigert, Ryan Eykholt, Annamaria Merkel
Pep Talk: Jack Waghorn, Joseph Pleass, John Bricker
Sound Editors: Evita Rigert, Francisco Dorado
Editor Interviews Sjaron Minailo: Tom Burke